From: John Conover <john@email.johncon.com>
Subject: Re: Traditional Wisdom... LO9064
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:35:28 -0700
Elizabeth Reed-Torrence writes: > John, > You posted this statement: > Whether human organizations are such a "sufficiently complex system," > > You might be interested in William Czander's work "The Psychodynamics of > Work and Organizations, Theory and Application", (1993, Guilford Press: > New York and London). Heexplains the use of the analytic-inference mode > of explaining behavior in organzations. It demonstrates that cause/effect > - cause/effect - cause/effect leads to problem solving in packages. > It is based in the Psychoanalytic Perspective but i find it useful > dialogue. > Hi Elizabeth, I was using the phrase "sufficiently complex system," in a complexity-theoretic sense-from mathematics. The phrase is used in the study of very complex systems, for example, like the weather, where, although we can define what individual gas/water molecules are doing, we can not define what the aggregate is doing. Even though the individual molecules act in a cause-and-effect scenario, the aggregate does not. These types of systems tend to be, (but not always,) globally stable, and, everywhere, locally, unstable. Interestingly, that is why we can not predict the weather more than three days in advance. About seven days is the theoretical limit, beyond which prediction will be, at best, a 50/50 crap shoot. Now, whether humans and their organizations can be modeled so simply is another issue ... Thanks, John BTW, there is some preliminary evidence that human organizations do, indeed, exhibit complexity-theoretic phenomena. The Santa Fe Institute has applied complexity theory to such things as social phenomena in the field of anthropology, etc. Most of the techniques come from neo-classical game-theoretic economic concepts. The study of entropic phenomena, (like the weather, or the programmed trading of stocks in the equity markets,) is a firmly entrenched discipline in the field of economics. You can catch them at http://www.santafe.edu. -- John Conover, john@email.johncon.com, http://www.johncon.com/