From: John Conover <john@email.johncon.com>
Subject: Re: Profit dreariness
Date: 21 Jul 1999 05:58:01 -0000
David Lloyd-Jones writes: > > > John Conover<conover@rahul.net> wrote > > > > BTW, I'll give you a hint. When arbitrage and speculation are > > > important components of valuation, it is a pyramid scheme. > > Whether this is true of "speculation" is simply a matter of opinion, because > the definition of speculation is only a matter of opinion. > > However John seems to misunderstand arbitrage. Arbitrage consists of buying > stuff at one price and selling it at a higher price, generally at about the > same time, sometimes even selling before you buy. When I was a kid I used to > buy the two or three US dollars that the post office took in from visiting > US tourists every day, and sell them to the bank the next day. Can you > imagine, there was a time when a Canadian dollar was worth anywhere from > $1.05 to $1.20 US? That's arbitrage, and there's nothing pyramidal about it. > So, you speculated that you would make money buying/selling currency. Like currency exchanges, I bet if you kept an accurate time series of your speculative endeavors, you would find that, as you say, it fluctuated between $1.05 and $1.20 But I bet that it would be in about 1% rms per day increments, which is similar to what the international currency exchanges run. (I bet the distribution of the increments had leptokurtosis with a persistence of about 0.6. too.) Pyramid schemes do too. John BTW, did you do the arbitrage in your speculation, like if you got an offer of $1.05 and held out for more? Similar mechanics to a pyramid player speculating whether to take the winnings and run, or wait and hope they continue up, fearing they might come down. I wonder if such things are a self-referential system. If everyone in the game, (assuming there were other kids in speculative competition with you,) is going to hold, then everyone should sell. -- John Conover, john@email.johncon.com, http://www.johncon.com/